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Apr 20

Written by: Johan Schoeman
2011/04/20 05:12 PM  RssIcon

Angola had strong Soviet and Cuban backing, and supported SWAPO/PLAN to the extend of providing assistance to the insurgents, co-locating Angolan troops in PLAN base camps in order to help protect them from South African aggression. The continued support to PLAN incursions prompted another strike by the SADF into southern Angola in 1980. This was Operation Sceptic, launched on 25 May, targeting the extensive 'Smokeshell' complex and several other base camps in Cunene province just north of the border. This is a small gallery of about 20 exclusive photos taken by Kobus Nortje during the operation.
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Re: Photo Gallery of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell) added

good post!

By runescape gold on   2011/09/05 04:55 AM
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Re: Photo Gallery of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell) added

Graag sou ek graag van die foto's wil sien.My Boetie GJ Kemp in 61 mech Dink is Ratel 21 is oorlede in die Show.

By Marietha Kemp on   2012/07/13 03:14 PM
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Re: Photo Gallery of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell) added

Marietha, gaan na www.warinangola.com en Registreer (dit is gratis) en dan na die Gallery... kies 'Photos of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell), 1980' en dan behoort jy almal te kan sien. Laai ook sommer die laaste ten of so Uitgawes van die Nuusbrief af (ook gratis). Dit bevat 'n redelike gedetaileerde beskrywing van die Operasie...Uittreksels uit die boek waarmee ek besig is.

By Johan Schoeman on   2012/07/14 04:03 AM
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Re: Photo Gallery of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell) added

Would love to see and hear from people who were in operation smokeshell

By Rose Sheard (nee Kruger) on   2013/06/20 07:09 PM
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Re: Photo Gallery of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell) added

I have loaded information, maps and stories about Operation Sceptic and the attack on Smokeshell on the War In Angola Portal at http://www.warinangola.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1644

By Johan Schoeman on   2013/06/21 05:31 PM
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Re: Photo Gallery of Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell) added

Was in Smokeshell

By Ockert Coertze on   2013/07/16 11:09 AM
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Ockert, Please send me some of your experiences (and photos) of the operation if you have. I would like to consider it for inclusion in a book on the operation... You can email it to johan@warinangola.com

By Johan Schoeman on   2013/07/17 09:14 PM

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Re: A nerve-wracking ride to Cuito Cuanavale
Regiment Pretoria? My first property was in Valhalla at the time. After national service, I got assigned to the today little known Regiment Munitoria, then Regiment Mooirivier, and lastly Regiment Pretoria, where I did my last and only camp at Wallmansthal roundabout 1993 (last call-up was 1994, with wandered straight into the dust-bin. Refused to become part of the treason).

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Very impressed with some of the Russian veterans on this and other boards. May we never look in anger at each other in future anymore, all of us of the same kind have a much bigger fight to fight nowadays, the battle for the cradle.

Come to think about it. Strange how the world has changed over the years.

During the Cold War the Eastern Block was our adversary and the West, with America as the leading western Nation our so-called friends.

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By German volunteer on: Thursday, April 03, 2014
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
Dear Phillip,
Thank you again for your lucid explanation.
I would greatly appreciate if you could write me at
e a r t e m o v [aapstert]y a n d e x . r u *verwyder die spasies!*
We could discuss a couple of subjects I am interested in. Thank you so much again.
Best regareds--
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By Evgeny on: Saturday, March 29, 2014
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
By the way, our training was aimed at producing instant obedience, which was a survival technique. But I do not believe that it was inherently sadistic - just very tough. There were a few sadists as well, but not as part of a systematic practice of sadism as such. I was a 56Kg weakling, and my PT instructor gave me hell, but at the end of it I was strong and fit, and it was his harsh treatment that made it so. I suppose all armies shave that three-fold seniority structure. With us it was roof-blougat-ou man. In the NVA it was Sprutz-Zwischenschwein-Entlassungskandidat. Some of our ou manne could be pretty hard. I had a very tough Panzer-corporal as mine. But though he barked and swore at me and chased me all around - double time - he treated me decently behind it all. Despite the sometimes (for a weakling) unbearable hardness of SADF training, I really have no complaints. I am in fact proud of having served in the SADF.
By The Ancient Armourer on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
Ek't Russiese fonetiek geleer tydens my musiek studies. Ek haat om meesterwerke in vertaling te sing. Ek't Mussorgsky se Lieder en Danse van die Dood opgevoer, asook Tsjaikovski liedere gesing. Volgens wat ek geleer het, is daar 2 "e"'s in Russies - "yê" en "ê" (soos in "Aeroflot"). Ek't geleer dat die 6de letter van die Russiese alfabet as "Yê" uitgespreek word, soos in Tsjaikovski se opera Yevgeni Onyegin". Is ek dan verkeerd? Jou Afrikaans is darem 1000% beter as my Russies! Groete, Phillip.
By The Ancient Armourer on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
O. Baie dankie, Phillip. :-) Ek sien dit nou. Ek het eintlik gedink dat die opset (die logika) van julle NCO’s se sadisties “you’re-in-the-army-now”-behandeling was om julle die troepe af te rig om ALLE bevele (selfs oënskynlik stupid, maar veral dodelik gevaarlike selfs hopelose) DADELIK, indien nie outomaties nie, uit te voer — soos die Amerikaanse seesoldate afgerig word. ’n USMC sersant kan die troepe beveel om een stewel uit te trek en net in een stewel aan te hardloop. As jy daarvoor lag, kry jy ’n opfok.
(’n Russiese grap: “’n Bepaling in die Israeli weermagregulasies: “Terwyl ’n ondergeskikte die bevelvoerder se bevel met die laasgenoemde bespreek, is dit is streng verbode om die laasgenoemde by sy uniformknoop te vat”.)

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Weereens baie dankie, Phillip.

Terloops, hoekom weet jy mens spel ook my naam met “Y”?

Groete—
Yevgeny :-)
By Evgeny on: Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
Sure, Yevgeny. We had to do a certain amount of physical exercise. Most of this was given simply in the form of PT, etc., on the programme. Then there was punishment PT. This was given for "bad" inspections, etc. It was called an opfok (Afrikaans), because they "fucked you up" during a session of it.

As new recruits, we believed it to be extra physical punishments. As a result, when a fellow recruit messed up and caused you such a punishment, you might punish him yourself, for example, by lashing him with a wet towel - one hit each by the guys who had suffered the opfok. Later, we realised that we were going to get the PT anyway - only the instructors used it cleverly. They would make sure that someone who needed disciplining was blamed for the opfok - accusing him of dust on his bed, bad shave, badly polished boots, badly ironed trousers, etc. When we disciplined the person later, we were doing his dirty work for him without realising it - until much later in our training.

As an NCO, I and the other NCOs used the same trick to deal with troublesome soldiers. Sometimes we would make everyone except the troublemaker suffer the opfok. But it was in the end a constructive activity - the troublemakers were sorted out by their peers, and we all got fitter.
By The Ancient Armourer on: Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
Hallo from Moscow, Philip!

Thank you so much for your great story. One thing attracted my attention. You wrote:

Later, as an NCO oneself, one was to do exactly the same. By which point, of course, the logic of the thing had become apparent.

Could you please explain why? It is not apparent to me, unfortunately.

As a matter of fact, I’d want to learn this to understand how SAW worked on the other side of the front during the Bush War.

Other contributors explanations will also be very welcome.

Thank you so much in advance.

Evgeny
By Evgeny Artemov on: Monday, March 24, 2014
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I can empathise with how you felt. I experienced exactly the opposite, growing up as an English speaker in a mainly Afrikaans town.
I had to pay for the British Victory in the Boer war myriad times (man, was I proud when I discovered that my grandfather had fought in it, on the English did )

All this negativity turned me into a Afrikaner hater, quite frankly. Through the army I spoke only English, with quite some difficulty, as you might imagine.

And then I met my Afrikaans wife. So even 18 years after having left South Africa, I still speak more Afrikaans daily than I used to speak in a year then.

Bottom line is : prejudice is ugly, it doesn't matter from which side of where it comes.
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